Don’t like Interpreter market rates? Blame the defendants! An analysis of interpreter market rates and an update on my current discovery and litigation with liens and Cost Petitions About two years ago, one of my favorite clients asked me to handle a Cost Petition over an alleged underpayment to an interpreter who had assisted at a hearing about two years prior. I accepted, largely as a learning experience. Up until that point, I had handled hundreds of interpreter liens through the traditional lien process, from informal negotiations through trial decisions, and had even successfully disposed of a prior Cost Petition by identifying a accounting mistake on the part of the interpreting agency. I was pretty aggressive in my response to the WCAB, which did the trick. I guess that was enough for my client to warrant a return to another Cost Petition with the same opposing counsel. Up to that point, I had only handled a few Labor Code §5811 Cost Petitions over the years and all were negotiation-based. Meaning, the client just wanted them to go away and were willing to pay for attorney’s fees to bring an end to the issue. From the start of that first Cost Petition with this client, I realized that they would rapidly become more popular (and they have), for at least two reasons. First, there is a conflict in the law that allows for multiple avenues to pursue collection of an interpreter bill. Even the most seasoned attorneys who specialize in only filing Cost Petitions (yes, there are a few) seem to confuse what is subject to IBR, non-IBR, a lien, or a Cost Petition under Labor Code §5811. Defense attorneys confuse them even more. As a side note, Labor Code §5811, WCAB Rule §10545 and a few other CCR provisions all have arguable overlaps pertaining to medical, medical-legal and “other” situations in which interpreters may render assistance. Second, is the claim of a “market rate” in general. Raise your hand if you have NOT seen an interpreter bill for anywhere between roughly $200-$400 for a minimum of two hours that is accompanied by a long, generic list of “other” comparable charges. No specifics, no case information. Nothing more than some random dates, a billed amount, and canned information as to what type of service the interpreter allegedly provided as their service. I see no hands raised. Boom! That is the all-powerful Kunz analysis that interpreters and their counsel attempt to roll up and smack the defendant over the head with as proof of their “market rate”. And time and time again, a defense attorney will glance at it and decide to compromise. Maybe that same attorney convinced the interpreting agency to knock a few bucks off per date of service. Maybe they threaten a threshold issue. Maybe the appearances get continued and the issue remains unsolved for a while. Yet, time and time again, the defendant coughs up big money for interpreters. Rinse and repeat. And they are not solely to blame. Claims examiners who have suffered through a long and drawn-out claim just want some peace and quiet and for those old dog claims to go the way of the ghost. No one likes dealing with those zombie files. And so, they offer authority and the matter is resolved. And don’t get me started on Judges. I have learned over the last year and a half that they too frequently don’t understand what goes into a Kunz analysis and what is required. They seem to dislike liens and Cost Petions even more than the defense side does, as lien conferences and hearings clog their already busy calendar. “Why aren’t both sides negotiating harder?” “Can’t your client come up with more money?” Again, raise your hand if you have NOT heard the same thing from a Judge on a case you have handled. Anyone? Anyone? I have gone to Trial on four such Cost Petitions over the last year or so, with some positive results. Of those, two have resolved with a lower payment obligation than what was demanded. Two resulted in no reimbursement due for attorney fees. All have slapped down overly broad discovery demands. I have negotiated three more. I have two that are pending being set for Trial at an upcoming appearance, with maybe six more in some other stage. In addition, I have two pending lien Trials for a Cost Petition and another for a lien filing where the WCAB has combined my request for discovery with the billing and demand for money. However, most of the work put into these cases has been defensive in nature, as I have jumped on the case after an appearance has already occurred, or well after a Cost Petition and demand for documentation has long been provided. Or, after a lien was filed for an interpreter and there either was a hearing pending, or one that had already occurred. Most of the work has been to clean up any issues and position the case for Trial. It wasn’t until fairly recently that we have finally been able to play some offense and aggressively demand discovery of our own. And what is the discovery? It stems from what I assume would be basic questions we should really know the answers to, if we are going to pay for a service. Such as, how is that market rate determined? What goes into it? What analysis goes into the Kunz paperwork the interpreters are presenting? What is the background of those other dates of service? I have found that the answers are hard to come by. Not just because interpreting agencies don’t want to provide me with basic information. That is to be expected. It seems that they can’t provide a substantive response. They just continue to use terms like “industry standard”, “trade secrets” and “Kunz analysis”. I recently had a lien claimant tell me with a straight face that knowing how the market rate is determined by her client and what